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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:42 pm    Post subject: Huge coyote or wolf? Reply with quote

Here are a Couple of pics from my trail cam in Lewis county NY. Let me know what you think. First is the dog (actually 2). Second are some deer off of the same group of photos. The deer are actually a little closer than the dogs
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow...please send me the jpeg of both of these pictures. If there are others send those as well.

I will give you my opinion after I see them........

Thanks for posting these....... Shocked

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok here are the other 2 pics from the set and another pic of a large deer for size reference. the deer pic is kind of coo because you can see the deers breath. I will email you the pics as soon as I can I acnnot email from work.


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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ERICW30

Is that 2nd canine (standing just behind the more downhill of the two
stumps) a fluffy-tailed coyote? If different species from the canine that
appears to be a wolf or wolf-hybrid due to the long legs and snout
construction, what is your interpretation why the two are in such close
proximity? My guess...chance followed by detente?

Oh yes, and do you have any solace for such as me often asked their
opinion of trail cam photos when the resolution of such photos USUALLY
isn't great enough for exact analysis? And is it some kind of conspiracy
that animals we know to be in an area are always in better lighting and
focus than animals about which we have more questions?
"Coincidence? I don't think so!" to quote Steven Wright.
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The other smaller dog is behind a small hump. I would assume they are together. Not a chance meeting.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming everything to be on the up and up, its a grey fox and a coyote. Sometimes things are not really a mystery. Neither animal is uncommon, so why would we assume 'wolf'? My guess is that other photos may have shown the coyote trying to catch the fox-they have been hard on the native populations Sad
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bearman58 wrote:
Assuming everything to be on the up and up, its a grey fox and a coyote. Sometimes things are not really a mystery. Neither animal is uncommon, so why would we assume 'wolf'? My guess is that other photos may have shown the coyote trying to catch the fox-they have been hard on the native populations Sad

There was no assumption that this was a wolf. The only reason I put this on here is because I put this photo up as my computor background at work and a couple of the other outdoorsman that work here looked at it and said, "where did you get that photo of that timber wolf?" I assumed both were coyote just that the one was very large. So I looked up timber wolves up on the internet and they looked just like this one. This photo was taken on the edge of the pepperbox wilderness and the croghan easment which is thousands and thousands of acres of forest with not much else there. If there were any wolves in this NYS this would be a good place for them. I doubt that is a grey fox though.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

....?????......didn't NYs Genetic study determine that the eastern coyote is 85% grey wolf????
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the NY study found that some of the "coyotes" are up to 85% wolf and a few even were a small percent dog. Eastern coyotes a "mutts" Very Happy

The Mass study found almost all studied had some wolf DNA but they didn't find any dog DNA there.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried really hard to edit those photos but they have too many strikes against them. First being from a trail cam, secondly, once they have gone thru photobucket its really hard to see them. Working with the original jpgs is much better.....
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[b]I am so sorry I have been absent, I have had huge computer problems Rolling Eyes

Thank you for the jpegs..... Very Happy Very Happy

I agree that the larger canine is a wolf/coyote....I disagree the smaller one being a fox. The tail is too short, the snout too broad, the legs are the wrong color. I can only asume in the month of March, this is a pup.

These are great pictures...and the comparision with the deer, you certainly get an idea the length of the legs on the big canine.

Last but not least...where the deer travel, the coyote/wolves are not far behind Exclamation

keep posting.... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

certainly looks like a grey wolf and a coyote,are these the only pics?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would bet that it is a red wolf cross as are most NY/New England coyotes. Some are larger than others and show the wolf characteristics more
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